![]() You might be able to chase one of them or their disciples down.īottom line, it's pretty much a trick pitch/delivery with no future for your son. There were a few gurus with the Diamondbacks and A's about a decade ago that were turning out side armed and submarining relievers for a short while. Why don't you try it yourself? You'll understand quick enough, elbow turning/twisting one direction while the throwing motion forces it another. Holy smokes that sort of motion could hurt. Especially in my experience trying to do anything like you do with a bowling ball. Fastball motion, no problemo, but trying to give it spin can be problematical. Done incorrectly, which is pretty easy, it can be very stressful on the elbow. As a middle aged dude with some experience was able to figure that out and avoid it mostly. Help! Anyone have any advice or data I can use?Submarine stresses the shoulder less, the elbow more. His coach made the minors but I don't believe he was a pitcher. I was under the firm impression that submarine sidearm SAVES your elbow. Got a new question, his coach wants him to stop submarining and throw overhand because submarining will blow out his elbow. He would actually prefer to throw knuckle balls but he isn't throwing strikes with that. ![]() Maybe he needs to modify something?Īlso, any suggestions for an offspeed pitch? So far, he totally mangles change-up grips. What is the grip and what motion would a right handed submariner get?įor a sinker, I am just guessing a four seam grip should do it but does anyone have better suggestions? So far, very little sink and tail from practicing with four-seam grips. I have heard from some of you about a frisbee slider. My question is what other pitches should a submarine pitcher throw? I think a pitch that could tail into left handers would be useful as well as anything with sinking motion. ![]() The break is pretty huge IMHO, sometimes up to 18 inches off the original line of travel. His cutter is the opposite of overhand pitchers, he's right handed and the ball tails into right handed hitters. But somehow, he has finally figured out how to consistently throw a two seam rising cutter with just finger pressure. My son is only 13 and doesn't throw too hard IMHO. I need advice on this but first some background:
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